I wrote on my blog adding my two cents from the right. I am very supportive of Second Amendment rights and believe that the possibility that citizens might be armed does deter crime. However, I have often seen good causes get taken over by fringe players who have a far different agenda. It is important that those of us who believe in gun rights be vigilant against those who might want to usurp the cause for a different agenda. To not resist such extremists in our midst is to allow the left to paint us all as extremists.
In my blog I pointed out information I learned from Mark, namely that Hallgarth is known as "Der Ecips Gnaw" on the Internet, including Facebook. (He also goes by other names such as "John E. Wang," "John Wang," "The Mayor of Fountaintown," "The Motown Crackpipe.") I also found out from googling that "Der Ecips Gnaw" had posted on numerous race related topics. I had little doubt at that point that the National Alliance he cited for his political views was THE National Alliance of white supremacist fame.
According to later Facebook postings on the Occupy Broad Ripple Facebook page, when WRTV reporter Jack Rinehart asked Hallgarth, aka "Der Ecips Gnaw" about the "National Alliance" reference he indicated that the reference was to the National Alliance Of Families For the Return of America's Missing Servicemen. Not sure how that could possibly be a logical answer to the Facebook inquiry about one's "political views" but let's give Mr. Hallgarth, aka "Der Ecips Gnaw" the benefit of the doubt ... for now.
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Let's return though to the "National Alliance" defense Mr. Gnaw offered. An alert reader found this page on the Internet containing a comment with the exact same email address as used by Mr. Gnaw on the Facebook page against the Black Expo:
Mr. Jagger, Again I must thank you, jager, for your revolutionary words in a time when not enough gentiles are standing up and saying "something isn't right." when this fire is ignited in one's soul he or she will forever be a racially concious individual. I hope you are frequently visiting a website known as natall.org. (The webiste has since changed to http://www.natvan.com/) It is the website for the national alliance the foremost resource for racially concious person. (Emphasis supplied.) The NA has a news website that is updated daily written by some real revolutionaries. You can learn alot from these wise gentlemen. It is easy to see the injustice done in our country. but it is hard to pinpoint where to make the change. please w/b @ firstname.lastname@example.org John T. W. Hallgarth Curator, The Motown Crackpipe
said motowncrackpipeWhen someone called him out on his comments, this was his response:
2004.08.13 at 13:35:07 PDT
DEAREST ADEEBA, YOUR MISGUIDED EFFORTS AND RAMBLING FALL APON DEAF EARS. MY VISIT TO JAMAICA WAS WONDERFUL, THANKS FOR ASKING. I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE BLACKS OF JAMAICA THRIVE AS A PROUD COUNTRY AND RACE. YOUR OFFENSE TO NEGRO IS SIMPLY CHILDISH REACTION. hAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE UNITED NEGRO COLLEGE FUND? IT IS HARDLY A RACIST ORGANIZATION OF WHITES TRYING TO GET BLACKS THE FUNDING TO GO TO SCHOOL. i WOULD VERY MUCH ENJOY TO GO TO EUROPE TO SEE MY HERTAGE AND ITS ROOTS. I MIND YOU THAT JAMAICA HAS ALOT OF CAVES ITSELF. AT MY WORK I DEAL WITH EVERY NATIONALITY AND RACE IMAGINABLE. tHE WORD NEGRO IS A SCIENTIFIC ONE REFERING TO A NEGROID BEING. IN OTHER USAGES ON MY SITE THE WORD NEGRO IS EMBRACED BY THE BLACK PERSON IN QUESTION. AM I RACIAILIST? WHO CARES...BUT MY SITE CALLS IT AS IT IS, WITHOUT RACISM OR COCAINE. -JOHN E. WANG CURATOR, THE MOTOWN CRACKPIPEMr. Gnaw aka "mayoroffountaintown" is apparently in the business of selling "herbal incense" and can be found on the Internet hawking products, including E-bay. I do not understand why someone would pay $33 for a 5 gram bag of blueberry mint herbal incense. (Actually maybe I do.) WebMD though last year had a lengthy article which claimed that incense products being sold on the Internet often include designer drugs that don't show up in drug tests but produce a high. Because the synthetic cannabinoids found in these products are new, they remain legal in many states. As I recall Indiana has attempted to address these designer drugs that mimic already illegal drugs through legislation, but prosecution has proven very difficult.
2004.08.18 at 18:15:18 PDT
Again, I strongly support the right of those with a permit to carry their guns for self-protection. I think armed citizens are a deterrent to crime. I want thugs to be concerned that their next victim might be armed. What concerns me though about this rally is that many of my Second Amendment friends may choose to participate in an event that is being led by someone on the fringe, someone who might have alternative motives. That would undermine a worthy cause.