After Mark blogged on the subject, I wrote on my blog adding my two cents from the right. I am very supportive of Second Amendment rights and believe that the possibility that citizens might be armed does deter crime. However, I have often seen good causes get taken over by fringe players who have a far different agenda. It is important that those of us who believe in gun rights be vigilant against those who might want to usurp the cause for a different agenda. To not resist such extremists in our midst is to allow the left to paint us all as extremists.
In my blog I pointed out information I learned from Mark, namely that Hallgarth is known as "Der Ecips Gnaw" on the Internet, including Facebook. (He also goes by other names such as "John E. Wang," "John Wang," "The Mayor of Fountaintown," "The Motown Crackpipe.") I also found out from googling that "Der Ecips Gnaw" had posted on numerous race related topics. I had little doubt at that point that the National Alliance he cited for his political views was THE National Alliance of white supremacist fame.
According to later Facebook postings on the Occupy Broad Ripple Facebook page, when WRTV reporter Jack Rinehart asked Hallgarth, aka "Der Ecips Gnaw" about the "National Alliance" reference he indicated that the reference was to the National Alliance Of Families For the Return of America's Missing Servicemen. Not sure how that could possibly be a logical answer to the Facebook inquiry about one's "political views" but let's give Mr. Hallgarth, aka "Der Ecips Gnaw" the benefit of the doubt ... for now.
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Logo for Stormfront White Supremacist Organization |
"We are a community of White Nationalists. There are thousands of organizations promoting the interests, values and heritage of non-Whites. We promote ours."The website has a link to the "White Pride Enterprises Project" and the "Latest David Duke Video." The website also has a large forum section discussing various white pride subjects.
Let's return though to the "National Alliance" defense Mr. Gnaw offered. An alert reader found this page on the Internet containing a comment with the exact same email address as used by Mr. Gnaw on the Facebook page against the Black Expo:
Mr. Jagger, Again I must thank you, jager, for your revolutionary words in a time when not enough gentiles are standing up and saying "something isn't right." when this fire is ignited in one's soul he or she will forever be a racially concious individual. I hope you are frequently visiting a website known as natall.org. (The webiste has since changed to http://www.natvan.com/) It is the website for the national alliance the foremost resource for racially concious person. (Emphasis supplied.) The NA has a news website that is updated daily written by some real revolutionaries. You can learn alot from these wise gentlemen. It is easy to see the injustice done in our country. but it is hard to pinpoint where to make the change. please w/b @ mtc_wang@yahoo.com John T. W. Hallgarth Curator, The Motown Crackpipe
said motowncrackpipeWhen someone called him out on his comments, this was his response:
2004.08.13 at 13:35:07 PDT
DEAREST ADEEBA, YOUR MISGUIDED EFFORTS AND RAMBLING FALL APON DEAF EARS. MY VISIT TO JAMAICA WAS WONDERFUL, THANKS FOR ASKING. I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE BLACKS OF JAMAICA THRIVE AS A PROUD COUNTRY AND RACE. YOUR OFFENSE TO NEGRO IS SIMPLY CHILDISH REACTION. hAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE UNITED NEGRO COLLEGE FUND? IT IS HARDLY A RACIST ORGANIZATION OF WHITES TRYING TO GET BLACKS THE FUNDING TO GO TO SCHOOL. i WOULD VERY MUCH ENJOY TO GO TO EUROPE TO SEE MY HERTAGE AND ITS ROOTS. I MIND YOU THAT JAMAICA HAS ALOT OF CAVES ITSELF. AT MY WORK I DEAL WITH EVERY NATIONALITY AND RACE IMAGINABLE. tHE WORD NEGRO IS A SCIENTIFIC ONE REFERING TO A NEGROID BEING. IN OTHER USAGES ON MY SITE THE WORD NEGRO IS EMBRACED BY THE BLACK PERSON IN QUESTION. AM I RACIAILIST? WHO CARES...BUT MY SITE CALLS IT AS IT IS, WITHOUT RACISM OR COCAINE. -JOHN E. WANG CURATOR, THE MOTOWN CRACKPIPEMr. Gnaw aka "mayoroffountaintown" is apparently in the business of selling "herbal incense" and can be found on the Internet hawking products, including E-bay. I do not understand why someone would pay $33 for a 5 gram bag of blueberry mint herbal incense. (Actually maybe I do.) WebMD though last year had a lengthy article which claimed that incense products being sold on the Internet often include designer drugs that don't show up in drug tests but produce a high. Because the synthetic cannabinoids found in these products are new, they remain legal in many states. As I recall Indiana has attempted to address these designer drugs that mimic already illegal drugs through legislation, but prosecution has proven very difficult.
said motowncrackpipe
2004.08.18 at 18:15:18 PDT
Again, I strongly support the right of those with a permit to carry their guns for self-protection. I think armed citizens are a deterrent to crime. I want thugs to be concerned that their next victim might be armed. What concerns me though about this rally is that many of my Second Amendment friends may choose to participate in an event that is being led by someone on the fringe, someone who might have alternative motives. That would undermine a worthy cause.
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Even minority opinions are entitled to their right to assemble.
Thanks for exposing Hallgarth's motives and background. We shouldn't allow the effort to protect rights to be hijacked by White supremacist hooligans.
The National Alliance that Hallgarth lauded advocated the genocidal killing of Jews, Blacks, and others, and was noted for its connection to numerous acts of violence, including murders. A book by the Alliance's founder inspired Timothy McVeigh's bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma, causing the death of 168 people. Nine years after that bombing Hallgarth was still enthusiastically praising the most vile and dangerous of all White supremacist hate groups.
National Alliance later fell apart and its members dispersed. Today the largest web site for White power/neo-Nazi types is Stormfront, with over 100,000 registered users. It is to that site that Hallgarth linked to on his Facebook page criticizing Black Expo.
The local news media have done a shameful job of giving this dark character free publicity without questioning his motives or history. Now that you have done their work for them, there is no more excuse for not reporting fully and accurately.
Libertarians and other advocates of rights and freedom should make every effort to root out haters like Hallgarth from our midst. Hate has no place in the positive struggle for universal freedom.
Hallgarth created a short video called "OCIP The RACIST SPIDER," that "eats Mexicans." One of his tags for it is "nigger skank Colts."
You can view it here until her removes it:
http://liten.be//VRLUD
The Facebook page with his link to Stormfront is no longer accessible. Ogden's expose is having an impact.
Hallgarth is bizarre. For years he has maintained a fictional identity as Mayor John E. Wang of Fountaintown. Here he is in a video titled "Mayor's address to the taxpayers of Fountaintown."
http://liten.be//j4K3W
It is described thusly:
"This is a video that addresses rumors that my trip to Denver Colorado has cost the taxpayers. I refute those allegations" Its tags are "dance ass tits Booty sexy naked slut nigger skank bootie."
He has posted another, somewhat vulgar, video called "Where in the World is the White Work Van," which "details our journey on a regular Saturday evening."
http://liten.be//S5Lp2
The tags for that video are: "bra dance Drunk Boobs Girls flash Moon Booty naked panties"
Here's a link to Hallgarth's "Senior Picture," with his "racist" spider... on his forehead.
http://liten.be//eZ8zs
It is troubling that the Libertarian Party's 2011 candidate for Indianapolis mayor, Chris Bowen, has confirmed on the Occupy Broad Ripple page that he is attending this farce. Bill Levin has had the good sense to denounce the stunt, of course.
In an online biography Bowen says, "You could say I was a whistle blower about racism and mistakes being made that was costing some enlisted men to be passed over for promotion." It is an odd thing to include in a bio without more detail. Racism against whom? Against non-White or White soldiers?
Ogden doesn't discuss the co-host of the Occupy Broad Ripple stunt, Jeremiah Bennett. He is a "piercer" at a tattoo parlor in Lafayette and his "favorite quotation" on Facebook consists of one: "fuck you." His beliefs and history have yet to be explored.
http://liten.be//EfGXB
Okay...I figured out how to fix the link to the Google documents, copies of the Facebook End Black Expo pages. Should be working now.
Not sure why the link to the active Facebook page doesn't work. I'lll have to work on that.
Apparently the End Black Expo page with the link to Stormfront has been taken down. Fortuntely I have the pages I copied and placed on Google Documents.
The link I posted to Jeremiah Bennett's Facebook page isn't working, so here is the direct link:
https://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremiah-Bennett/1231847076
Looking a little fubar. --All the more reason for me to show up in the Village (I live in SoBro) and hand out politically-neutral info on getting a handgun permit.
I'm not about to let others speak for me, especially under this kind of a cloud.
He is just a little more upfront and honest on his thoughts on race than most Republicans. Looks at the candidates that the GOP has put forth for President in 2012. He is a bigot and idiot but he is an honest one. He admits his true feelings no matter how repulsive they are.
I'm betting that he HSA and the FBI have had this hut case on their radar for a while now.
A friend on mine lives in that area and told me that whack job is a very scary dude and loves attention.
This seems t be what this Nazi really wants, is a little attention.
whoops try these
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1158150995048612639qSTJMi
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1085479081048612639bllbZv
Just more from Mr. Hallgarth's motowncrackpipe picture album.
Art: Candidates like Herman Cain?
Could you please try to look past the brand names a little bit?
This business of stereotyping, it's a major element of not only racism, but other kinds of hatefulness, too. It'll trip you up.
Left-wing Artfuggins unwittingly makes the case for what we have to be careful of. People like him will take the most extreme person who joins our cause and then use that extreme person to suggest he represents the views of the group.
Sure it's not intellctually honest, but intellectual honesty is not exactly the hallmark of the left.
Intellectual honesty is not exactly the hallmark of the right either.
Ronald Rodgers
Because of this planned rally for gun rights, 11:00 pm tonight, Broad Ripple promises to be a great place to be.
@ Hoosiers for Indiana
You said, "Intellectual honesty is not exactly the hallmark of the right either."
While your blog has gone barren, Ogden has accumulated and published the proof that Hallgarth is a scoundrel and his event a farce. Yet here you are nipping at the heels of someone who did what you couldn't be bothered to do. If a reader is obsessed (in 2011!) with what Ronald Reagan "says about unions," your blog is the place he should go.
Im thinking that Nazi Der is a little nervous. Yes Der, that Crown Vic,just down the block from your trailer is watching you.
Seems to me that Der should stay home and patrol this trailer park and make sure that no minorities try and move in.
The next thing Ogden should do is call every TV news department and the Star to ask them why, even though they have known for days that Occupy Broad Ripple is organized by a White supremacist, they have not reported it.
Der Ecips Gnaw=Wang Spice Red backwards.
Nicolas, if I read Ogen's and Small's post correctly, Small raised that point with WRTV but it didn't appear in their online story. Might've appeared in the television version.
FWIW, I'm a skinny white boy and I was out in Broad Ripple last night with a very short female friend of mine. Neither of us were going to be beating back attackers or anything like that, but I felt safe even when walking back to my car on College Ave.
My gut tells me the crime rate (outside of some minor vandalism, littering, and loitering, which kind of comes with being part of the night life) isn't really all that much different than in similar sized parts of town. It's just when crime, especially violent crime, happens in The Village, it is much more likely to get reported in traditional media
Intellectual honesty is not the hallmark of most people, whether left or right.
I personally think about 20% of the people in our country are sociopaths with no moral compass to guide them.
I believe only 10% of politicians are not corrupt.
I have to commend you for digging deep and publishing links rather than sticking to "just google it".
Hopefully the guy (who was embarrassed enough about his past to try to conceal it) is ready to turn over a new leaf.
I assure you that most of the people who support everyone's Right to Keep and Bear Arms know all about the racist roots of gun control.
Hallgarth died March 23, 2019 at the age of 35. I haven't found the cause of death.
Does anyone know the cause of death of John Wang? I know him from the past he was crazy but human please respect the dead. Just curious of how he passed away.
The good Reverend John Wang Hallgarth Mayor of Fountaintown passed away at his home suddenly due to an aneurysm in his sleep on the 22nd day of March 2018.
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