Wednesday, May 5, 2010

Terrific Candidate Carlos May Loses to Perennial Congressional Candidate Marvin Scott

Over at Advance Indiana, Gary Welsh laments the Carlos May's loss in the 7th District and says he should have targeted a third candidate, Wayne Harmon, who siphoned off a surprising 19% of the vote and probably cost Mays the nomination.

I'm not sure I agree. The minute May went negative against Harmon, negatives will attach to him and people will be driven to vote for the candidate who stays above the negative campaigning - Marvin Scott. The strategy would have been double-edged. It would have cost Harmon votes and many of those votes would have went to May. But May also would have lost many of his supporters who had voted for him because he was a positive candidate, a fresh face in the Republican Party.

Attacking a third placed candidate to drive votes to one of the top two candidates is always tricky. I'm not sure anyone saw that 19% coming so I doubt the Mays camp thought it was a necessary strategy to consider. Of course, the Marion County GOP could have helped May just a bit to put the organization's slated candidate over the top against Marvin Scott. Instead of helping out the endorsed Carlos May, GOP chairman Tom John decided to do a hatchet job on Sheriff candidate Bart McAtee.

Nonetheless, May is exactly the type of candidate that the Marion County GOP should embrace and seek to promote in the future. A perfectly functional GOP organization would do that. But the Marion County GOP is as dysfunctional as a political organization can be. I am constantly running across bright, talented Republicans who have left the Marion County GOP because the Old Guard is more interested in holding them down than in promoting talent in the party. Hopefully, May won't be a victim of that dysfunctionality. But if May decides to take his considerable talents and energy outside the Marion County GOP where he will be more appreciated, I wouldn't blame him.

10 comments:

Advance Indiana said...

Paul, You missed my point. We scared Harmon out of even running against Elrod. The time to raise the issue was when he could have been kept off the ballot. Harmon did not want to answer questions about the Ohio issue. That's why he dropped out of the race the last time.

Advance Indiana said...

Paul, You should have read the Ohio case decision on Harmon's termination as a parole officer. It was very disturbing. It would have been remiss for any candidate not to have raised the issue.

Paul K. Ogden said...

Gotcha. I didn't realize you were talking about raising it BEFORE the deadline for dropping.

Cato said...

May works for Ballard and was slated by John. That's all I needed to see to vote for Scott.

Stop Indiana said...

"Cato you idiot," Clouseau's words not mine; Carlos May wan not the party's candidate!

Had Enough Indy? said...

Too bad that Carlos lost. He is a good fellow and deserved a chance to try his hand in the November election. Did the Republican County Party actually give him help or just charge him the slating fee?

How did the rest of the slated candidates fare? The D slate won, I know. But, I am not familiar with who all was slated on the R ballot. The Democratic Party appears simply to have sent out a warning letter to PCs telling them they MUST promote the slate. There weren't any particularly stellar efforts otherwise by the County Parties at the polls where I worked.

Advance Indiana said...

Pat, The party put out one cheap-looking mailer that featured both Fishburn and May. It spent the rest of its wad on flashy, negative hit pieces on Bart McAtee. There didn't appear to be any handouts for the slate on election day. I'm a committeeman and nobody asked me to find someone to distribute them at my poll. The Dems had a voting card that many uninformed voters carried with them into the booth to vote.

Flipper said...

Ok all you people who assume things.I was Carlos Mays office manager personal driver. he party gave him no support at all because he would not kiss Tom John's ass. other slated candidates had free mailers, free yard signs and free phone banks. Carlos had none of the above. because he refused to kiss party ass. Carlos ran an open, honest and professional campaign and we are damn proud of how we did it.
and to Cato..your an idiot!
Carlos was a neighborhood liason tor the west side of indy and he did one hell of a job. you can sak any west side community group and they all love him. if you people don't know what you are talking about then STFU.

Cato said...

"and to Cato..your an idiot!"

Doubtless, but at least I possess the saving qualities, however slight, of spelling, punctuation, and properly forming contractions.

If your invective is at all indicative of the temperament held by your candidate, I'm feeling all the better about my vote, despite the admonishments by Gary and Paul.

Perhaps if these two leaders had posted their own sample tickets, the less connected of us would have had some guidance.

In absence of such instruction, their continual disparagements of all things Tom John were taken to heart.

Wilson46201 said...

I agree with Cato! I was following the race closely and noticed the peculiar silence by both Gary and Paul on the 7th CD Congressional race. I believe each did a piece or two about it and indicated their inclinations towards Carlos May but that was about it. Not that I'm complaining or anything...